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Hunger for Wholeness
Love on a Complexifying Planet with Ted Peters (Part 2)
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Hosts Ilia Delio and Robert Nicastro on "Love on a Complexifying Planet with Ted Peters" Part Two
About Ted Peters
Ted Peters is author of UFOs: God's Chariots? Spirituality, Ancient Aliens, and Religious Yearnings in the Age of Extraterrestrials (Career Press New Page Books, 2014). He is co-editor of two recent books, Astrotheology: Where Science and Theology Meet Extraterrestrial Life (Cascade Books, 2018) as well as Astrobiology: Science, Ethics, and Public Policy (Scrivener 2021). Ted is a systematic theologian who specializes in the interaction between science and religion. He currently teaches theology and ethics in Berkeley, California, at the Graduate Theological Union and serves as co-editor of the journal, Theology and Science. Visit his website, TedsTimelyTake.com, and his blogsite https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publictheology/.
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Title: Love on a Complexifying Planet with Ted Peters
Broadcast: 3/20/23
Intro
Welcome to Hunger for Wholeness. In this episode, Ilia and I conclude our conversation with theologian Ted Peters. We pick up with Ted questioning “what is the ‘subject-object’ relationship between us and our devices?”
Segue
Our rapidly complexifying world is enough to make anyone’s head spin. It requires more developed thought, deliberate and intentional relationships, and deeper forms of love. Next, Ilia and Ted discuss whether we can ethically harness technology and, as a result, recreate ourselves for the love of the planet and all its diverse life. And finally, our guest shares his hope for the future.
Outro
This concludes our discussion with Ted Peters.This podcast was funded in part by our partners at the Fetzer Institute, helping to build a spiritual foundation for a loving world. On behalf of our team at the Center for Christogenesis, I’m Robert Nicastro, thanks for listening.
Promotional Content
Guest Bio
Part 1
“Theology in Cyberspace with Ted Peters”
Ilia Delio and Robert Nicastro interview theologian Ted Peters.
In Part 1, Ilia and Ted discuss the challenges of public theology despite it’s importance to navigating the contemporary world. Through this conversation, Ilia, Robert and Ted, use the concept of trans-humanism—its strengths and weaknesses—to better understand what it means to be a human in a technological age, and what we need conceptually to try to improve our complexifying position on planet earth.
Part 2
“Love on a Complexifying Planet with Ted Peters”
Ilia Delio and Robert Nicastro conclude their interview with theologian Ted Peters.
In Part 2, Ilia and Ted interrogate the relationship we have with our close-to-hand technologies, and the dynamic generational forces at play in our relationship to media and perspectives. Our hosts ask, “can we ethically harness technology for the greater good?” and “what would it look like to do so?” They share perspectives on the growing importance of ecology and emphasize—most of all—the primacy of love in our hope for the future.
Production Specs
Part 1 (~19:39-54:39)
(“Part 1 Intro” over “To the Light”)
Part 1.1: 19:39 (Ilia: “Does theology…”) - 21:19 (Ted: “...of some sort.”)
*Cut 21:20-24 (Ilia asking if we’re recording.)*
Restart: 21:25 (Ilia: “Because, I do think…” - 25:24 (Ted: “...you want wholeness.”)
(“Interlude 1”)
Part 1.2 25:32 (Sp: “Ted you’ve done so much work…”) - 31:32 (Ilia: “…not a big band cosmos”)
(“Interlude 2”)
Part 1.3: 31:35 (Ted: “Twenty years ago…”) - 37:25 (Ilia: “…we’ve lost depth”)
(“Part 1 Segue” over “Interlude Segue”)
Part 1.4: 37:30 (Ilia: “The way technology…”) - 43:44 (Ted: “…would be wonderful”)
(“Interlude 3”)
Part 1.5: 43:50 (Robert: “Would you say Ted…”) - 48 :09 (Ilia: “…theology and ethics”)
(“Interlude 4”)
Part 1.5: 48:09 (Ilia: “The other thing…”) - 54:39 (Ted: “…for that enrichment.”)
(“Part 1 Outro” over “To the Light”)
Part 2 (~54:40-1:24:16)
(“Part 2 Intro” over “To the Light”)
Part 2.1: 54:40 (Ted: “What I don’t know…”) - 1:02:15 (Ilia: “…philosophical framework.”)
(“Interlude 1”)
Part 2.2 1:02:33 (Robert: “What you’re saying…”) - 1:07:34 (Ilia: “…in the universe”)
(“Interlude 2”)
Part 2.3: 1:07:45 (Ted: “Well I like this…”) - 1:11:33 (Ilia: “…not despite modern science.”)
(“Part 2 Segue” over “Interlude Segue”)
Part 2.4: 1:11:39 (Ilia: “What if we were to use technology…”) - 1:18:57 (Ted: “…exclamation point”)
(“Interlude 3”)
Part 2.5: 1:19:49 (Ilia: “So, Robert…”) - 1:24:16 (Ted: “…all the best”)
(“Part 2 Outro” over “To the Light”)
Content Notes
McLuhan (hope of technology”
Teilhard
Buber (I-Thou v. subject-subject)
Heraclitus (union differentiates)
Keenan (“sin is not bothering to love”)